Wednesday, May 04, 2011

Post-Pesach "party"

What fun, looking for all the stuff we put away before Pesach (Passover). Not. (Sigh.)

Those watching at home will be happy and/or amused to know that I finally found the rice-steamer last night (see the comments to Curses, foiled again :)). It was hidden behind something else on the living room floor. Next year, I'll try not to do such a good hiding job.


Blogger Miami Al said...

We have enough space that it's not an issue. Certain appliances (food processor) are only used for making Sedarim, so those get put away before Yom Tov starts. Others are used through the Sedarim, they could put away on Yom Tov Sheini or during Chol Hamoed.

Cleaning up from Yom Tov prep, other things can go away before Yom Tov or during (depending on the item of course) at the end. We had a bunch of people over for lunch on the last day, but after they left, when we were cleaning up, we put most of the rest away.

After Yom Tov, I'd guess we had stuff put away within an hour or two, and we moved all our regular stuff back.

The point is being organized and moving stuff out of the way, not out of reach. We have some deep corner cabinets that we don't "fill" because you couldn't reach the back, but during Pesach, I push things back and put stuff there.

But little stuff, after lunch on Day 8, I don't need drinking glasses, so when they are washed, they go back in their box and get put away, if I want a glass of water, I can use plastic for that afternoon.

Wed May 04, 05:18:00 PM 2011  
Blogger Shira Salamone said...

Too bad we can't borrow your house. :)

Wed May 04, 08:31:00 PM 2011  
Blogger Miami Al said...

Again, some of it is having more space, others is organization. You're two people, you don't cook much, and you don't host a Seder. You shouldn't really need that much in the way of Pesach stuff. Service for 4 (meat) should be sufficient for Shabbat/Yom Tov meals, go plastic for Dairy. A couple of pans, etc., and you should be done. Turn over the microwave and kasher the oven for heating things up on Yom Tov and you should be done.

Cover the counters and what is left? Why do you need to bag all your small appliances? We move a bunch of stuff to get it out of the way, but it doesn't sound like you have that much of a need for things.

Thu May 05, 12:01:00 AM 2011  
Blogger Shira Salamone said...

We're using mostly paper plates and cups and plastic tableware, these days. The appliances get stashed in the kitchen cabinets, the breakfront, and/or on the kitchen and living room floors. The only things we bag are the chametz pots and the microwave, since they end up on the kitchen floor. We kasher the stove and oven for Pesach cooking.

We may end up doing a seder or two once we move, depending on whether we get really serious about not traveling on Yom Tov anymore. Stay tuned.

Thu May 05, 07:35:00 AM 2011  
Blogger Miami Al said...

I think that bagging the chometz pots/pans is why you are nuts for a 2-3 weeks. Just put them in cabinets, put tape on them (or childproof locks) to keep you from accidentally moving them, and clear off a little space for a prep area.

You should be able to do everything for your kitchen in 2-4 hours, not days.

Thu May 05, 11:06:00 AM 2011  
Blogger Shira Salamone said...

Nu, Al, do you think we'd bag our pots and leave them on the floor if we had enough room to put them in the cabinets? Sigh. Being a NYC apartment dweller generally means that one has more stuff than space.

Thu May 05, 11:17:00 AM 2011  
Blogger Larry Lennhoff said...

I'll have to ask my wife (who is machmir on not preparing for chol on a chag, or for preparing on one day of chag for another) how she feels about starting to pack stuff up during chol hamoed. I know we aren't going to pack stuff away on the 8th day. :>)

Thu May 05, 12:20:00 PM 2011  
Blogger Shira Salamone said...

What, you mean Malka Esther doesn't believe in leftovers? :)

Thu May 05, 01:04:00 PM 2011  
Blogger Miami Al said...


Fair enough. We use the same loophole that lets you do dishes on Shabbat/Yom Tov, to enjoy the home for the day. I figure, after I wash my glassware from lunch, it doesn't matter if I push them on the shelf in an upper cabinet, or on a shelf in a lower cabinet, you have to put them somewhere. :)

One caveat, my Pesach dishes are in glass doored cabinets in the dining room year round. They are really nice and out on display. They got put away after EVERY Yom Tov meal, because that's where they live year round.

If you don't have extra storage, you don't have that option, but that was important to us. Rather than a China/breakfront, we did a custom wall length one in the dining room to have storage for Pesach stuff.

I just don't see anything halachic distinction between "I washed the pot, put it in cabinet A where it's been for a week" or "I washed a pot, put it in cabinet B where it was the prior 51 weeks."

If my Pesach stuff was in a box in the garage, this obviously would NOT be the case.

Thu May 05, 02:07:00 PM 2011  
Blogger Shira Salamone said...

"If my Pesach stuff was in a box in the garage, this obviously would NOT be the case."

Well, our Pesach stuff is in boxes that are stashed on top of bookshelves for the rest of the year, so we can't pretend that we're just putting things away for the moment. (We're really going to have to rethink our Pesach storage spots, not just because we'll be moving, but because we won't be able to haul things down from the tops of bookshelves forever--we're not getting any younger.)

By way of clarification, I really should mention that all that foil on the left wall in that "Curses, foiled again" photo is covering the pot racks, which is where our pots usually reside--we don't have room for them in the cabinets during the rest of the year, either. We take the pots down, bag them, and put them on the floor so that we don't forget and accidentally use them during Pesach.

Thu May 05, 02:36:00 PM 2011  

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